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Halloween XI: Get the FUD

By Eric S. Raymond on June 22, 2004 (8:00:00 AM)

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I've just seen a dispatch from the front lines of the FUD wars, Huw Lynes's report from one of Microsoft's Get The Facts roadshow in Great Britain. It's a fascinating read, especially when considered in context with Halloween VII and more recent leaks out of Microsoft. The outlines of the next stage in Microsoft's anti-open-source propaganda campaign are becoming clear. It's a good time to take stock of where we are, what our favorite evil empire is doing, and how best to respond.

Let's start by reminding ourselves of the stakes. For Microsoft (or at least its present business model) to survive, open source must die. It's a lot like the Cold War was; peaceful coexistence could be a stable solution for us, but it can never be for them, because they can't tolerate the corrosive effect on their customer relationships of comparisons with a more open system. (Anyone who thinks I'm being perfervid or overly melodramatic about this should review the direct long-term revenue and platform threat language from Halloween I, Other people may fool themselves about what this means, but Microsoft never has.).

Because coexistence is not a stable solution for them, it cannot be for us either. We have to assume that Microsoft's long-term aim is to crush our culture and drive us to extinction by whatever combination of technical, economic, legal, and political means they can muster. So, in evaluating the Get the Facts road show, we need to start by asking how it fits into Microsoft's larger strategic plans.

One level is obvious. It seems to me very likely that Microsoft's UK tour is designed as a trial run of themes that they'll take to the U.S. to the extent they look successful. The UK is not a trivial market, of course, but 50% of all IT spending is still in the U.S., so from a Microsoft strategic planner's point of view that's where the main battle is. We can afford to pin some of our hopes on growth in Europe and developing countries and elsewhere, but Microsoft can't — the time horizon on it is too long for a company whose big challenge is to keep beating revenue expectations every quarter in a market where they have 92% share. If they don't beat those expectations every quarter, their stock tanks, the option pyramid collapses, and it's game over.

The Dog That Didn't Bark

So, how does this FUD campaign differ from all other FUD campaigns? Let's start by considering the things Microsoft is not doing in this road show.

1. They seem to have abandoned using the "open source is intellectual-property cancer" argument directly. This follows the advice their own survey group gave them two years ago that this tactic was backfiring badly. Instead they're pushing this line through bought proxies at SCO and elsewhere.

2. They've quit claiming that Microsoft's products are technically superior. Instead, they talk up transition costs.

3. Similarly, innovation, which was every other word out of a Microsoft exec's mouth a year ago, now seems to have quietly exited their vocabulary. It isn't in Huw's report, and it doesn't show up on the Get The Facts page.

4. Finally, we're not seeing the very recent Microsoft line that actually all software is proprietary because it's owned by somebody, so there's no difference between proprietary and open source.

Like the dog that didn't bark in the night-time, these omissions are significant, because Microsoft marketing is thorough and ruthlessly opportunistic. You can bet money that the reason they're not making these arguments is because they tied them on smaller focus groups, or individually with key customers, and they didn't fly.

The New Party Line

Now let's review what Microsoft is doing. Huw gives us five bullet points:

    1. Claim that linux isn't free.
    2. Pretend that Shared source is the same as Open Source
    3. Make a big deal about the migration costs of moving to Linux
    4. Use the Forrester report to claim that Linux is insecure
    5. Belittle the quality of the toolset available on Linux

I'll take on all of these, but in reverse, saving the most interesting for last. Do I even need to point out that most of the factual claims are blatant lies brought to you by the same people who got caught faking video evidence in their Federal antitrust trial?

Belittling the quality of the toolset available on Linux actually reduces to a TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) argument, because what a poor toolset means to a manager is that he'd have to hire more administrators to cover the same number of machines. I'll have more to say about winning the TCO argument in a bit.

Use the Forrester report to claim that Linux is insecure. Huw didn't give a link to Red Hat's counterargument. It's a good one, and I'll build some recommendations for action on it later on.

Make a big deal about the migration costs of moving to Linux. Beating this one is easy. All you have to point out is that migration costs money once; per-seat Microsoft licensing fees are forever. Unless Linux TCO is substantially greater than Windows TCO, the sooner you switch, the more money you save.

The really interesting and novel lines are Huw's report of arguments 1 and 2: Claim that Linux isn't free and Pretend that Shared Source is the same as Open Source. Though these have been foreshadowed elsewhere, we haven't seen these used as headline arguments before, and they add up to nearly a reversal of the position Microsoft has taken in the past. Whereas Microsoft has before tried to claim that its products and licensing are different from and better than and more innovative than Linux's, now they're reduced to arguing that you should stick with Microsoft because shared source is just the same as open source. Really. Ignore the attack lawyers behind the curtain.

Linux isn't free. Hello? If there is actually anyone still left on the planet who thinks the term free software was a good idea, I hope they're paying attention. Because what Microsoft is doing here is exploiting the old familiar gratis/libre ambiguity of the word free in yet another way. They're setting up for a claim that free software advocates are lying or deluded because Linux has a nonzero TCO. Therefore, goes the implication, you can't really trust them about that other freedom thing, can you?

Semantic warfare — struggles over the meanings of words as proxies for political or market positions — is just like other kinds of warfare; you want to fight it on the other guy's turf, not yours. Every minute we spend arguing with Microsoft flacks about what free means is a win for them and a lose for us.

This is also why we need to attack the shared in their shared source rather than defending the open in our open source. Fortunately this is easy. We can ask why they call it shared source when they're not giving up the right to sue people who share it for IP violations. Are they giving anything away except the opportunity to be hauled into a courtroom the next time you do something that Microsoft thinks is competitive with it?

Taking It To The Streets

Notice how defensive a position Microsoft is in now. Trying to neutralize shared source by equating it with open source implicitly concedes that open source is something customers want. Microsoft has given up a lot of ground here. Make them give more. Hammer them without mercy — but do it in a quiet, reasonable voice and keep control of the terms of argument. Here are some sound bites for open-source advocates to use in response to the Get The Facts campaign:

    * Migration only costs money once; higher Windows TCO is forever.
    * Shared source is a poison pill.
    * Only the Windows boxes get the worms.

The thing not to do is talk abstractions. FSF-style propaganda about freedom or user's rights has its uses occasionally, but it will register on this campaign's target audience of bottom-line-fixated IT managers as irrelevant or nutty. And when you look irrelevant or nutty, you hand Microsoft a victory.

To put the Microsofties really on the spot, it's most effective to phrase your counters as questions, especially when you can use them to whack Microsoft with a combination of issues like TCO and security. Like this:

    * How many Linux machines have been zombied by Netsky, Sasser, MyDoom, or similar worms? Do your Windows TCO estimates include administrator time spent cleaning up after these infestations?
    * Can you explain why Windows IIS websites are cracked or defaced more often than Apache ones, despite the fact that IIS runs less than a third the number of sites Apache does?
    * Is Microsoft willing to add a hold-harmless clause to Shared Source licenses that protects shared-source licensees against being sued by Microsoft for alleged IP violations related to the software? If not, then please explain again how Shared Source is just the same as open source?

What This Campaign Tells Us

We're winning, people. Microsoft has failed to stop us with better software technology or lower prices; they're incapable of the former and their business model wouldn't survive the latter. The SCO lawsuit isn't flattening our uptake curve enough for anyone to notice. The defections are mounting at previously captive customers; good recent examples include the French and Brazilian governments. Microsoft has to be particularly worried about the huge increase in Linux server shipments Gartner reported in 1Q2004; on current trends, we'll pass them not just in shipped units but in dollar volume early next year. They are not merely feeling the pressure, it has passed their pain threshold.

The choice of arguments in the Get The Facts campaign is an obvious circle-the-wagons move to defend Microsoft's base of large corporate customers and governments. In itself, it is unlikely to accomplish much; at best, if they're both lucky and persuasive, it may slow down the rate of defections temporarily. But it's not going to do any better than that, and here's why:

Microsoft's underlying problem is that it employs about 22,000 programmers; the open-source community can easily muster ten times that number. That means the capability gap that has opened up between the open-source codebase and Windows is only going to get worse from Microsoft's point of view, not better. Time, technology, and market forces are not on their side — so, to survive, they're going to have to change the game so that market forces and the open-source advantage in technology become irrelevant.

Future Wars

So what is Microsoft going to do to try to claw back control after the Get The Facts campaign runs out of sufficiently gullible targets? I expect it to involve legal and political shenanigans much bigger and uglier than we've yet seen. We've been expecting an attack using junk patents as weapons for two years, and I think the only thing that has held it off is that a convicted predatory monopolist with 92% market share can't expect to sue a bunch of developers who are giving stuff away for anyone to use without taking a severe drubbing in the court of public opinion.

I don't doubt they'll get desperate enough to do that, though. The emergence of institutions like the Public Patent Foundation and Groklaw gives us weapons of our own, but expect some bruising battles ahead.

Expect Microsoft to ally even more closely with the RIAA and MPAA in making yet another try at hardware-based DRM restrictions — and legislation making them mandatory. The rationale will be to stop piracy and spam, but the real goal will be customer control and a lockout of all unauthorized software. Two previous attempts at this have failed, but the logic of Microsoft's situation is such that they must keep trying.

I also expect a serious effort, backed by several billion dollars in bribe money (oops, excuse me, campaign contributions), to get open-source software outlawed on some kind of theory that it aids terrorists. We can only defeat that by making sure that national governments become so attached to open-source code that their military men and bureaucrats will short-stop the bribed legislators, rather than let their vital infrastructure be outlawed.

Large corporations were the right first target five years ago, because converting some of them was the most efficient way to change the demand patterns perceived by the rest of the computer and software industry. That trend is self-sustaining now; I think we passed the tipping point about six months back, and the Get The Facts campaign is evidence of this.

But in the next year, I think we need to focus more on government adoptions, in order to protect our political and legislative flanks. We need to make the cost of suppressing us higher than the sixty billion dollars Microsoft can afford to pay.

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When will people wake up?

Posted by: OwlWhacker on June 22, 2004 11:28 PM
Microsoft's FUD keeps on failing, and the beast has to continually keep inventing new FUD that people may possibly believe.

Look at all of the discarded FUD trailing behind Microsoft, why aren't people getting wise to this and putting all of their efforts into switching away from Microsoft solutions?

Sheesh. Crazy.

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Re:When will people wake up?

Posted by: bobzibub on June 23, 2004 01:12 AM
Well, we have of course...
But have you noticed that often one sees in the IT trade press how they now note that some new linux "study" is funded by Microsoft? Perhaps it's me but I think that some in the IT Press have either discovered ethics or been clued into Microsoft's little PR game. (Present company excepted of course!)
-b

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Re:When will people wake up?

Posted by: Ciaran O'Riordan on June 23, 2004 11:18 AM
> Microsoft's FUD keeps on failing



That depends on what it's purpose is. If they think they can convince people that their software is better or cheaper than Free Software, then they're fighting an impossible battle. But I don't think that's their real goal.



MS's sock puppet (SCO) has distracted both the mass media, and us, from the real problems facing our community. DMCA2, software patents, and Trusted Computing are the real threats - and we're sitting around patting ourselves on the back for rebutting their FUD? (and the rebuttal is made to the choir, not the recipients of the FUD)



We have to start concentrating on the real threats. FSF's <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/server/takeaction.html" title="gnu.org">Take Action</a gnu.org> page has some good links. People in the EU: the big issue is software patentability (<A HREF="http://swpat.ffii.org/" title="ffii.org">info</a ffii.org>, <A HREF="http://kwiki.ffii.org/index.cgi?SwpatcninoEn" title="ffii.org">latest news</a ffii.org>, <A HREF="http://ifso.ie/projects/swpats.html" title="ifso.ie">summary</a ifso.ie>).

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we win

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 22, 2004 11:32 PM
"first they ignore, then they laugh, then they fight, then we win"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. Mahatma Gandhi

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Re:we win

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 05:24 AM
Sorry to inform you but we're a long ways away from the ``we win'' stage. We're just barely entering the ``then they fight'' stage. And the ugliest part of that stage has yet to begin.

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Re:we win

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 08:13 PM
"A defeated army first seeks to do battle, then obtains conditions for victory."
(Sun Tzu, the art of war)

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Other Questions to ask

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 22, 2004 11:48 PM
1. What will be the real impact of Loghorn?
2. What upgrades will we need to hardware to run it?
3. How much will it cost to retrain administration staff?
4. How secure will it really be? Especially, if Microsoft are the main party offering both operation system security and virus-checking software? They don't exactly have a good track record for either of these, and now they have a bundling vested interest.
5. Will cross-application scripting i.e. VB be as lethal as with current versions of Windows?
6. Do you really want to be on the bleeding edge?
7. Where is the centralised control and management? How well will Longhorn work with products such as Citrix?
8. Why should you want to install thick-clients, when thin clients are now beginning to show best ROI and lowest TCO?
9. How much is really going to cost to stay with Windows?
10. What facility or innovations does Windows provide that cannot be readily delivered by other platforms?

OK. So if you went to the Microsoft briefing did you get the answers to all these questions? Did you even bother to ask?

If not how can you ever be able to assess TCO versus any other platform?

But all this is actually irrelevent to IT management. The only important task is delivering the IT systems your business needs.

So why did you waste time attending the Microsoft event - you knew it wouldn't deliver business solutions?

You would have better spent your time reviewing open source application solutions on the internet.

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Re:Other Questions to ask

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 02:24 AM
The significance of Longhorn, to M$ is that it is the wonder drug to kill off the need for linux. However, the last I have heard is that it will not ship until sometime in 2007. That is 2 1/2 years away. consider the last Dinosaur at http://www.muq.org/%7Ecynbe/rants/lastdino.htm This article was written in 1999 - 5 years ago, and has reasonably acurately predicted the current uptake of linux. As best as I can tell, we now stand at around 5% linux on the desktop. If that is correct, then the worst case we should see in 2 1/2 years is about 25% on the desktop. Assuming that Apple maintains its 5%, that leaves a 70% market share for microsoft, but for how long? If Longhorn has DRM included, and a stiffer call home feature than XP does(which seems very likely) then those very features will most likely drive even more people to linux, rather than block the exodus from windows.

To make maters even more interesting, in 2 1/2 years ReactOS will most likely have something that is very usable. It will be interesting to see how much of a market chunk they can take out of M$.

My best guess is that Longhorn will be the Microsofts last big gasp.

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Re:Other Questions to ask

Posted by: flacco on June 23, 2004 08:41 AM
and, don't forget:


11. How can we believe a single word you say?

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What happens when Longhorn comes out?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 05:01 PM
Longhorns minimum system requirements (4-6 Ghz Dual-Core CPU, 2Gb RAM) will be way, way above the spec of about 90% of PCs still in use by companies. In my workplace, PCs built to run NT are common (running XP - slowly). Will companies be willing to meet hardware upgrade costs as well as the licences for Longhorn? We need to emphasise the ability of Linux to run on older hardware so that come upgrade time (when XP/2k/NT are scrapped), companies will realise they only need to buy Linux rather than Longhorn AND new hardware.

I wonder if this is why Billy Gates is bleating on about "free hardware"?

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Relevance of Legacy Apps

Posted by: Edward Macnaghten on June 22, 2004 11:51 PM
This article IMHO is excellent and presents the real facts well.


One of the reasons why Microsoft has done so well in the market place is their insistance of supporting legacy applications in their new operating systems. A cost to this has been technical flaws appearing (and sometimes being ported to) Microsoft's Windows product, but the market cost of this has been insignificant to users not having to re-purchase third party applications while "enjoying" the Windows OS latest "features".



However, one thing the Open Source systems has done is to raise expectations as far as reliability and scalability of operating systems, and what with Microsoft's stratergy of DRM'ing as much as possible the backward compatibility component is getting broken.



This is creating an enormouse opportunity for Open Source, and other MS competitors, to knock Microsoft off the number one spot: when people have to upgrade/change their third party software anyway there is less reason to stick with the same OS vendor.



Redmond are well aware of this, so we can expect FUD and marketing behaviour comparible to a fish bouncing and bashing about in the bottom of a boat after being caught.



I consider it part of my responsibility to see it does not bounce back into the water...

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Re:Relevance of Legacy Apps

Posted by: Edward Macnaghten on June 23, 2004 12:06 AM
Excuse me replying to my own post but....



case in point, a <A HREF="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/22/1413221&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=126&tid=128&tid=172&tid=187" title="slashdot.org">slashdot artice regarding SP2 for XP</a slashdot.org> has just appeared....

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Re:Relevance of Legacy Apps

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 02:04 AM
Open source applications that run equally well on linux and windows certainly don't help the M$ case either. When the applications don't change in the switch, then most of the retraining has already been done. I may not be a big fan of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET, but I can see MONO doing the same thing for legacy home brew windows apps as Samba has done for the file server.

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Re:Relevance of Legacy Apps

Posted by: Rich Gibbs on June 23, 2004 04:13 AM
The issue of legacy apps and backward compatibility is an important one to keep in mind, especially if Microsoft is talking about transition costs. These are not trivial now, if the transition is from Win 98 or even NT 4 to Win XP; and they are going to get significantly worse. There is just no way that Microsoft can fix their security and reliability problems without removing or significantly changing a lot of the facilities that those legacy apps use.


Tech Republic has an article on <A HREF="http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6264_11-5222856.html?tag=sc" title="com.com">some of the changes that will be coming with Service Pack 2 for XP.</a com.com>


I've already had one consulting client, a medium-sized business, move to planning a transition to Linux, after they saw how much of their old stuff would not move from Win 98 to XP.
To quote the CEO, "If we're going to have to change a lot of stuff anyway, we should change to something that will be most reliable and least expensive in the long run."
(Oh, and they don't have to buy all new machines.)

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Politics

Posted by: SarsSmarz on June 23, 2004 12:00 AM
Politics remains the ms 'great hope'. If they can align with other cartels, and throw in child-abuse as well, they can shut things down.

Only trouble is that they have put a lot of money into broadband. They really are in a pickle.

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I Agree

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 12:46 AM
Bush and Aschcroft will try to outlaw linux or anything other than microsoft because of terrorism.

they have to get their stocks up in microsoft so this will be a good way to do it.

  - they'll also probably use the excuse that they can't install spyware to see where you have browsing so they can check on your terrorism activities.

Microsoft can't beat us with innovation/better software so why not outlaw us.

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Irony is....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 01:29 AM
Watching the bouncing bar graphs of the banner ad screaming "Click here to Get the Facts!" at the top of this article.

Thank you, MS, for buying the advertising that keeps a site which publishes stuff like analyses of Halloween articles and reccomendations on how to handle them up and running. \o/

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Re:Irony is....

Posted by: sailfish on June 23, 2004 06:05 PM
whoops, better turn 'adblock' off so I can see the ads (blush)

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Microscoff, MS-BUSH and MS-DOJ

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 02:38 AM
How else should a monopoly operate?

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Latest ESR article is just warm air

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 04:40 AM
ESR sure likes to spout off. I don't think this helps the Free Software community one bit.

Example:

"Make a big deal about the migration costs of moving to Linux. Beating this one is easy. All you have to point out is that migration costs money once; per-seat Microsoft licensing fees are forever. Unless Linux TCO is substantially greater than Windows TCO, the sooner you switch, the more money you save."

This is crap. Ever heard of "interest"? "Cost of money"? Think about it.

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Re:Latest ESR article is just warm air

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 05:20 AM

As is the parent post.

I was wondering just how long it would take for one of these anti-ESR posts to show up.

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Re:Latest ESR article is just warm air

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 07:14 AM
"This is crap. Ever heard of "interest"? "Cost of money"? Think about it. "

You are joking arn't you? You mean if you took the money you would have spent on switching to Linux and invested it to earn interest you would earn at least as much as you will be paying out in continuous license fees to M$? If this crazy idea added up do you not think M$ would change to become an investment company rather than a software company? M$ obviously take more money in licensing than could be made from investing the capital outley.

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Re:Latest ESR article is just warm air

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 12:39 PM

``Ever heard of "interest"? "Cost of money"?''


Ever hear of viruses and worms? Those cost money to get rid of. My employer spent just under US$500K last summer ridding the Windows desktop systems and servers of a single infestation. The UNIX and Linux systems I use and manage didn't see a bit of downtime. How much principle would you need to have in the bank to accrue enough interest to cover that little aspect of the TCO associated with running Microsoft software? And remember, you could be hit with that cost several times a year. Tough to budget for, too. And in case you haven't had to do it, it's no fun at all having to go to management to ask for money for things that weren't planned for. (Which is why I've distanced myself from the MS arena as much as possible.)

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Re:Latest ESR article is just warm air

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 06:46 PM
``Ever heard of "interest"? "Cost of money"?''

Ever hear of viruses and worms? Those cost money to get rid of.

I completely agree with you. I'm not attacking Linux, or saying that Linux isn't cheaper. I'm attacking ESR's flawed reasoning. As so often happens when someone is deeply convinced about something, ESR uses flawed reasoning to reach correct conclusions. This just provides ammunition for the enemies of free software.

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Open Source vs Shared Source

Posted by: cruss on June 23, 2004 08:40 AM
Trying to warn companies that shared source is a poison pill is great but fundamentally misses the point. When MS says that Shared Source is as good as Open Source it obfuscates the reason that most companies would benefit from Open Source. We should be selling the primary benefit of Open Source as freedom from vendor lock-in. Shared Source has nothing to counter this. MS claims that Shared Source allows for the collaborative, many eyes, advantages of Open Source. Weather it actually does or not is debatable, but why try to debate them. All we have to do is remind companies that "vendor lock-in" is non existent with Open Source.

For example, if sun decided to stop all production of Openoffice and StarOffice the community would still have the code. Development could still go on. What about MySQL, It has a dual license. If the commercial company MySQL AB was purchased by someone and development stopped, or just not distributed under an Open Source license anymore, we would still have the code. As a corporate IT professional, that makes me feel a lot better when making decisions about what software to base our internal processes on. Much better than the promises of a company that says they will continue development as long as you pay licensing fees. My employer has been burned, several times, when a vendor has decided that the next version of a critical piece of our infrastructure requires us to upgrade our servers, or buy new licenses of MSSQL. Even worse, we have been told that "No, those bugs won't be fixed, we have been bought by a competitor and that product no longer exists."

If MS can say that Shared Source is as good as Open Source, we should be able to easily ask about where Shared Source addresses vendor lock-in. I bet they won't have an answer to that.

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Re: access to source code is a convenience

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 06:09 PM
I agree with Eric on a lot of the things he has written, but I think he is wrong about "open source" being a better term than "free".

Yes, it is a problem that "free" in the English language very often means "at no cost". However, this problem is not present in all other official languages of the UN (Russian, Spanish, French, Chinese, German, Arabic) and many (most?) other languages of the world. When in a dialog with people in any of those languages it makes more sense to use the local term, and there is no problem. Actually, it makes people more enthusiastic than talking about source code.

Secondly, related to this article and this post, I would like to point out that access to source code is just to make the software easier to use once you obtain a license. You have no business using that software without a license, because software is legally a copyrighted work. To obtain licenses, management do not need software developers. They need lawyers and accountants. What kind of deal is the company getting themselves into? This is the legal department. What does it cost? This is the accountancy department. However, software management is the responsibility of the IT departement, so the legal and the accountancy department should ask the IT department for advice or the IT department should get involved in informing the other two. If the accountancy department finds a means to save money, they will let management know. If the legal department finds favourable conditions in the licensing terms, they will let management know.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. If someone offers this, they just want reimbursement in a different currency than money. Number one on the list of other currencies is your attention. While holding on to it, you will be offered other things that will cost you money. Switching back and forth between currencies they may offer to work, to let you use a product for some time, to ask you to be a reference - all of which has nothing to do with source code, but with you to finally part with your money. However, you are stuck with source code in the end, and now what do you do? What can you LEGALLY do? With free (as in freedom) software you can do a lot. It makes no sense to from a management point of view to go the route of "open source"-talk, because after a number of costly steps you find yourself where the Free Software Foundation starts, so why not start there?

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Another tactic

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 25, 2004 11:10 AM
The other tactic you can use to battle the open vs. shared argument: customizability. Honestly, ask the audience if they would like complete control over the software they use, I doubt any of them will say no. I currently work for a company who's CEO (small buisness, approx. 50 ppl) was a real die-hard microsoftie, and they chose linux. Do know why? Its because they needed to deliver a customized (hire a dev team kind of customized) website frontend for a custom database and linux made it so much easier to do this (its a bunch of perl/PHP scripts, but the new version might use something different). I doubt very much that there are many buisnesses (esp. small startups) that would balk at the chance to customize and personalize a piece of software that they use heavily. All in all, TOTAL customizability (I haven't studied the shared source initiative which might offer to release some part of the code for changing) is a unique feature of open source, we should focus on letting people know the advantages of open source that microsoft etc. can't replicate rather than fighting definitions that their FUD department made up (although thats good too).

on that same note, here's another thing thats great about open source: support saftey i.e. the program is not going to go away. Point out a hypothetical situation where one company (A) chooses open source, and another company (B) goes with a proprietery solution. Then the company that provided that closed-source solution folded (maybe due to a lawsuit claiming that the code was illegally copied *cough*SCO*cough*), company B is left out in the rain whereas with open source, you can be sure that the product you rely on can always continue to be supported (even if you have to write the code yourself). You can also point out the excellent projects on sourceforge that have been restarted because someone new came along and decided to help a floundering program. They were able to even when all the developers had moved on because the code was still there.

as a final note, make sure that we don't spread FUD ourselves. point out to people that open source might not be the answer to thier problem; make sure they understand the benifits but realize that it still might not be right for that company/person. We should be marketing the fact that the company can choose (choice is almost always seen as a good thing) not that open source is right for thier company. Most Companies will lean towards a product that gives them the right product at the right TCO, and if you emphazies that open source can give them a product (that can be) tailored to thier needs, you're halfway there and you've made clear that microsoft is very much a one-size fits all company.

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Yes, the term "free software" IS a good idea

Posted by: Ciaran O'Riordan on June 23, 2004 12:27 PM
In the long term, whether we win or lose hinges on whether or not we are permitted to write and distribute software to compete with MS.



People must be free to use our software, free to make repairs and improvements, free to spread the software around, and free to publish their repairs and improvements.



Sounds kinda like <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html" title="gnu.org">The Four Freedoms</a gnu.org>?



GNU/Linux is proof that if freedom only requires hard work, we'll work until we're free. MS know that the only way they can beat us is to take away our right to write software - through patents, DMCA/EUCD, or Trusted Computing. <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html" title="gnu.org">Freedom</a gnu.org> enables the collaborative development model, freedom is what we need.



MS don't use the term "free software", they say "open source". This should be enough to set off alarm bells that the latter term is in line with their goals, not ours.

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Taste Great, Less Filling

Posted by: Don de Los Alamos on June 23, 2004 06:04 PM

I say; Think Globally and act Locally! I'm disappointed in the
non-existance and/or lack of interest in LUGs (Linux Users Groups)
these days.  That makes me wonder "a lot" about Gnu/Linux, xBSD
& F/OSSs' future generations.



Fight software patents being granted willy-nilly absolutely! With a
clear Vengeance!



Petition, NAG, Holler & otherwise make visable in a poor light,
etc. (with tact & intelligence) hardware vendors, OEMs & 
that treat us as non-existant and or "second class" citizens. My 25
rounds with Ted "Wait-Way" & Dell Corp. pop into my head just as
one example. Why should I or anyone have to dig through 500MBs of
garbage @ Dells On_line website to find out that they do offer Linux as a laptop OS
"under certain conditions"; or that H-P will give only "select"
corporations Pre-Installed Linux on their machines.



Walmart is good, but it ain't good enough! Besdies, I don't shop there.
Lets see IBM put-up or shut-up! I'll take 15-20 new Thinkpads tomorrow
for my road warriors if I can get RHEL3 or Suse 9.x pre-loaded. Yea
OS/2 was there at the wrongtime, but we know who to thank for the
sudden death of that one; Right Bill!?



BTW: Thanks Eric, I missed that Red Hat story from Don'Unda.

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Free Software or Open Source?

Posted by: jlar on June 23, 2004 06:48 PM
"Linux isn't free. Hello? If there is actually anyone still left on the planet who thinks the term free software was a good idea, I hope they're paying attention. Because what Microsoft is doing here is exploiting the old familiar gratis/libre ambiguity of the word free in yet another way."

"The really interesting and novel lines are Huw's report of arguments 1 and 2: Claim that Linux isn't free and Pretend that Shared Source is the same as Open Source."

Hello? If there is actually anyone still left on the planet who thinks the term open source was a good idea, I hope they're paying attention. Because what Microsoft is doing here is exploiting the old familiar open/shared ambiguity of the word open in yet another way.

Please stop that line of arguments, Eric. It does'nt really make sense.

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Give it a break....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 09:02 PM
>Semantic warfare — struggles over the meanings of >words as proxies for political or market positions >— is just like other kinds of warfare; you want >to fight it on the other guy's turf, not yours. >Every minute we spend arguing with Microsoft >flacks about what free means is a win for them and >a lose for us.

Oh, that's rich. The whole OS/Free terminology thing was started by Erik Raymond anyway, IIRC. It doesn't mean a thing to me and I'm not alone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

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Re:Give it a break....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 23, 2004 11:15 PM
That it does not mean a thing to you might mean that you are ignorant and prefer to stay that way, not that the issue has no meaning.

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Re:Give it a break....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 12:29 AM
>That it does not mean a thing to you might mean >that you are ignorant and prefer to stay that way, >not that the issue has no meaning.

It might, except it doesn't<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) It means I have better things to do than quibble over semantics and hand 'Them' a stick to beat 'Us' with. Or more specifically, I don't have time for people who start quibbles over semantics and then ask people to stop arguing about it...

>Every minute we spend arguing with Microsoft >flacks about what free means is a win for them >and a lose for us.

If Raymond is really serious about this, I'm sure we'll see him drop the Open Source terminology so as to show he can put the cause before his ego.

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Reallity check

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 01:10 AM
You seam to be somewhat shortsighted. Look pal, It is MS that is confusing the semantics for FUD purposes. Ok? If you don't want to waste your time in this. Fine, I don't give a fsck, frankly. I do care about MS confusing the issues. Got that?

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Re:Give it a break....

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 01:40 AM
Let's see if I do get that, uh...pal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

Your argument is that Microsoft is using the split caused by Raymond's creation of the term 'Open Source' as a weapon. Fine. OK. I'm sure they'd use anything but anyone who's ever had a real job could only laugh at this argument, IMHO.

Anyway, the fact is that if Raymond hadn't created this split, it wouldn't be there for Microsoft to use, would it? So, if it's Raymonds mess, let him clean it up, stop carrying on his feud and spare us all the whining.

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"Free" vs. "Open"

Posted by: Charles Tryon on June 24, 2004 02:37 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one who is always harping on the fact that "Open Source" is a bastardization of truly FREE software is Richard Stallman, not ESR. Now, I have to say I think that both camps have valid points (ESR is arguing from a pragmatic point of view, while RMS has a "higher" philosophical point of view), but I think way too much heat is wasted on arguing how the two views are different, rather than on how they complement each other. The fundamental point is that proprietary software, and the choke-hold that proprietary software gives to a small number of corporations over the world economy, are what are robbing the rest of us blind.


However, blaming the argument on ESR only shows your overall ignorance of the history of Free Software.

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Re:Give me *another* break

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 03:06 AM
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one who is always >harping on the fact that "Open Source" is a >bastardization of truly FREE software is Richard >Stallman, not ESR.

You're wrong. *Both* of them have been wasting far too much time on this kind of thing. After all, Stallman didn't write:

"If there is actually anyone still left on the planet who thinks the term free software was a good idea, I hope they're paying attention"

Which is a fairly stupid thing to say.

Raymond coined 'Open Source' *after* Stallman coined 'Free Software'. If Raymond hadn't coined the term nobody would fighting over it.

Since Raymond started it, he'd be a lot more credible if he actually admitted some responsibility for the mess instead of whining about it.

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10x Programmers

Posted by: Charles Tryon on June 24, 2004 01:55 AM
> Microsoft's underlying problem is that it employs about 22,000 programmers; the open-source community can easily muster ten times that number.


Eric,


Good point, however there are a number of factors which mitigate this advantage.


First, a huge number of these programmers are not working on OS full time. Most of them have day jobs which may or may not involve actual development of OS software. People may in fact be extremely creative, and get 2x the development output for an equal number of actual hours worked, but that is still less than full time. I'd make a wild guess at somewhere around 10% to 20% working at somewhere near the same level of output as the average MS programmer. That still leaves you at a significantly higher total output, but not nearly what you might think by simply counting warm bodies.


Second, for what it's worth, Microsoft engineers are working in a coordinated fashion. They have a hierarchy, with high level architects calling the shots, and making sure things work together. OS developers are organized, but it is still a much more add-hoc sort of "meritocracy". You often see several versions of the same thing (e.g., nearly a dozen different Jabber and IM clients last time I checked), where projects often consume a huge amount of resources, and then fizzle out.


Of course, this "coordination" is a two edged sword! When everyone is marching in the same direction, it is very easy to have everyone marching in the wrong direction. If you only have one version project planner software, and there are serious problems with how it works, or you discover that people want to do use a Web client rather than a standalone app, then you are up a creek without a paddle. On the other hand, if there are 12 different Jabber clients, then if the one you are currently using ends up being a dead-end because everyone has moved on to a different platform, then you aren't left holding the bag, and it is possible to switch to something else. Of course, in this scenerio, open standards become a key issue!


So, I think the general development of OS software is moving a lot faster than it is in MS. However, it isn't nearly as much of an advantage as you make it out to be, and there are a lot of dead-ends and lost effort. This doesn't even address the issue of device drivers for proprietary hardware, but hopefully as manufacturers see the change in direction OS is bringing, many of them will start to open up at least the API's to their devices.

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MS Vunerability

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 08:51 PM
"...If they don't beat those expectations every quarter, their stock tanks, the option pyramid collapses, and it's game over."

Interesting argument. We always hear about how MS has so much spare cash that it can go on for years without making much in the way of profits but that does ignore the possible effects of their share price taking a dive.

I wonder if there's an MS share price below which it would start causing damage to the company. Any financial types out there care to comment?

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Give me a break

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on June 24, 2004 10:10 PM
I truly believe anti-Microsoft propiganda is worse than the "we're the best thing since sliced bread" business propiganda. (PS: I'm a Solaris certified Unix Admin)

And articles like these continue to prove my point.

While you're sitting here wasting keystrokes trying to trash talk MS, MS is busy creating Longhorn, which will be considered the biggest innovation since Win95. And let's not forget that Win95 made computers easy for the mainstream both to use and to access the Internet. Who cares if Apple made the easy PC first, they didn't take the market. Isn't what really matters is the people, not the companies. I don't care who provides the best experience, as long as I get it. Linux still isn't there, but they've made great strides.

The fact anybody teams up with a certain OS and chants the "we're gonna take over the world, what you use is crap" needs a reality check.

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