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Meet Saudi Arabia's most famous computer expert

By Robin 'Roblimo' Miller on January 14, 2004 (8:00:00 AM)

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Eyas S. Al-Hejery, PhD, may be the only computer geek in Saudi Arabia to have had the eyes of the world focus on his work. That's because he's head of the country's Internet Service Unit, which runs the country's infamous Web-censoring system that is supposed to defend Saudi citizens from "those pages of an offensive or harmful nature to the society, and which violate the tenants [sic] of the Islamic religion or societal norms."
No normal citizen of a secular "western" nation would tolerate this level of interference with his or her Internet use, but this is a conservative Islamic state where protection from Internet evils like pornography doesn't draw much protest. Saudi Arabia seems to have lightened up a bit on political and religious censorship in the last year, a relaxation for which Al-Hejery cannot claim credit. He says security agencies, not his Internet Service Unit, decide which sites to block for any reason besides obvious pornography.

Now it's time for a little disclaimer: The Saudi Internet filters are easy to defeat. I found at least a dozen anonymous surfing sites that let me view all the porn anyone could want in less than 30 minutes, and I have viewed more online porn while testing the Saudi content filters than I had looked at in my entire life before this experiment. Al-Hejery, too, knows that anyone with much knowledge of the Internet and computers can blow right by the Saudi content filters. He sees the filtering as a way to protect children and other innocents from Internet evils, and not much more than that.

Many complaints from westerners about Saudi Internet censorship are not about pornography, but about blocked sites that deal with topics like women's rights, civil liberties, gay sexuality, and religions other than Islam. I tried to reach a number of the blocked sites mentioned in the Harvard Law research study, Documentation of Internet Filtering in Saudi Arabia, last updated Sept. 12, 2002, and found that some of the more innocuous sites blocked at that time -- like iVillage.com -- are now available, but that many others on the list are still blocked. I found that non-Muslim religious sites seem to be more available in Saudi Arabia now than they apparently were in the past. Testimonies of Muslims who become Christians is the sort of title that almost certainly would have brought up the "Access to the requested URL is not allowed!" page (see screenshot) instead of the site itself a year or two ago. I also found that some human rights-oriented sites, including Reporters Without Borders and Amnesty International, that were once blocked are now available -- and not just their main pages, but pages that deal specifically with Saudi government abuses.

Blocking screen
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On the other hand, just about any site that portrays Judaism or Israel in a positive light isn't allowed -- although this page debunking the (sadly) widely held Muslim extremist myth that Jews drink Muslim blood, and other anti-Semitic libels, seems to have slipped through the cracks, and can be viewed by Saudi residents without going through anonymous proxies or using other filter-defeating tactics.

(Saudis with money to pay massive phone bills don't need to take any special measures to get around the filters. They can simply obtain an ISP account in one of the less restrictive neighboring countries and do their Web surfing via long distance calls.)

Al-Hejery shrugs off the people who bypass the filters. He points out that the system has wide public support, demonstrated by the fact that the Internet Service Unit currently receives over 200 "legitimate" requests to block sites every day, but only a "trickle" of requests to unblock sites that citizens feel are being hidden improperly.

Asked what he considers an "illegitimate" blocking request, he says, "Well, like to block CNN."

I point out that there are times when U.S. President George W. Bush would probably like to have CNN blocked, too, and Al-Hejery laughs.

Content filters are just part of the job

While the content filters get all the press attention, Al-Hejery's operation is far more than that. He points out, "This is the Internet gateway for Saudi Arabia." All ISPs must, by law, route through it. The Internet Service Unit is also the registrar for the .sa top level domain, and is generally the go-to agency for any Internet-related matter here, just as its name implies.

Al-Hejery went to work for the Internet Service Unit soon after he got his PhD, and rose through the ranks to his present position. He is a techie, not a religious or political radical. His job is not to decide which sites Saudis are allowed to see or not see, but to keep a horde of servers and routers humming along. And if he fails, what with the fact that sending all Internet traffic in the whole country through a single chokepoint obviously creates a single point of failure, all Net traffic in Saudi Arabia stops. There is at least a little redunancy built into the system, with gateways in both Riyadh and Jedda, but this is nowhere near the level of fail-safe connectivity major U.S. online companies expect from their bandwidth providers.

This kind of worry can make a man a little nervous, especially since his systems are as swamped by spam and DDoS attacks as any other backbone provider's. And once you get Al-Hejery going on the twin topics of spam and DDoS, you are suddenly no longer talking to someone who runs one of the world's two most notorious Internet censorship systems (the other one being China's) but to a guy who is angry about ignorant computer owners hooking unprotected computers to "always on" cable modems or DSL lines where they can be used as open spam relays or DDoS zombies by anyone with even a little bit of cracking skill.

Sadly, the Saudi Net filter doesn't stop spam. "If you could stop spam," I told Al-Hejery, "You could make a million dollars a day as a consultant for the U.S. government, and I'd even kick in some extra out of my own pocket."

"If I could do that," he replied, "I would be a hero here, too."

Author's note: Plenty has been written elsewhere about the political side of Saudi Arabia's Internet censorship policy. This article is not an attempt to justify it, since I find the idea as appalling as anyone else raised in the U.S. who believes wholeheartedly in our Constitution's First Amendment. But just once, I thought, we should step back and take a look at the man who is charged with making this unwieldy system work -- and to point out that he's as aware as anyone else of the system's flaws.

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Whats up with Saudi?

Posted by: Curtman on January 14, 2004 07:31 PM
Where are all these Saudi stories coming from Robin? (besides the obvious - being Saudi Arabia) I'm not complaining BTW, I think its very productive to keep an open dialog in these troubling times. Hopefully it will help us see past the propaganda, and distrust we're being fed by the media. We need to put a stop to this pro-muslim, pro-jew mentality. No good will come of it.



Thanks for another interesting read.

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Every internet connection through one point

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 14, 2004 10:18 PM
Are you also interviewing the individuals living in Saudi Arabia who are monitored through the one point, and who are found to regularly visit prohibited sites?



Did the government provide a list of individuals caught?



Is the list complete?



Have you interviewed a sizeable chunk of the Saudi population to see what the punishments, if any, are?



Can we got pictures of the backs of the residents caught visiting prohibited sites regularly? Or of those that dare post critical posts of the government? Are they still around?



I wonder if the same slack will be cut to Carnivore, the Patriot Act, Patriot Act II, and other western monitoring.



You are writing a nice propaganda piece for a monarchy. Nothing more. Nothing more.

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Re:Every internet connection through one point

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 15, 2004 01:05 AM
And How many people did your country lock away illegaly with no access to legal representation this year?

Put a sock in it.

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Re:Every internet connection through one point

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 15, 2004 02:44 AM
All US citizens have access to due process currently.



Foreigners are not afforded the same rights as citizens. And foreignors here illegally have even less rights.



Instead of crying about your countrymen not having (often taxpayer subsidized) legal representation after they are caught in the US illegally, how about getting your citizens under control, how about paying for the foreign nationals from your country getting a taxpayer subsidized education at the subsidized "resident" tuition rates, failure to file/pay taxes on earnings, increased load on schools and other services, etc.



Foreigner unlawful-combatants have even less rights here in the US. As they would in your country. As is specified in the Geneva Convention.



And your post changes the subject of the propaganda being posted on Newsforge because linux/tech stories are slow and controversy is always good for higher ad views.

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Re:Every internet connection through one point

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 15, 2004 08:10 AM
There are at least 2 high profile cases of an American citizen not being granted due process, being denied the priviledge of habeus corpus and until very recently were denied their rights to a lawyer.

The Geneva conventions are not being applied, as the US government has claimed they are not relevant since they claim these people are not prisoners of war. They created their own classification for them to avoid any accountability. If they were prisoners of war, they could not be legally interrogated under the Geneva Convention (odd how this doesn't seem to stop them from interrogating Saddam even though they have made him an official prisoner of war). The US government also actively engages in torture which is also illegal (mental, physical, and pharmacological).

This comment is now pretty much just as irrelevant as your original response was to the original post. I didn't exactly see newforge doing anything at all to support the Saudi government. They merely supplied information and tried to not to get into the issues that you obviously thought they were supporting. I, and I doubt many other people on here, don't appreciate your trying to confuse reporting information with supporting what that information represents.

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Re:Every internet connection through one point

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 18, 2004 03:07 AM
Yeah, right. The Geneva Convention mentioned nothing about this. And all Americans are not being given due process. How about the ones in Cuba?

Looks like an impeachable offense to me, keeping Americans in jail without a lawyer, charges, etc. Creating his own "enemy combatants" definition is purely illegal as well. I don't care what they did, this is about the law. The law is the only thing that protects us citizens from the government.

Even if one of those prisoners had managed to kill one of my friends currently serving in the Middle East, they still should get a trial and due process. Why? Because something compromising our way of life and our due process for our own citizens is to desecrate soldier's graves.

It's an insult to every soldier and patriot who ever fought. It's purely criminal to say your fighting for democracy overseas but to deny it at home. What's next? If I'm declared a terrorist, can I be locked in jail indefinately? If somebody with my name is suspected and I'm stopped at the airport, will I ever have a chance to free myself?

Bush has become a paranoid freak, he's broken the law and he's endangered all of us.

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What's going on?

Posted by: MikeX on January 15, 2004 01:22 AM
There's a guy at my local library who manages the filtering software, is he going to be interviewed as well?

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Re:What's going on?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 15, 2004 04:07 AM
if he managed the filtering software for an _entire nation_, i don't see why not.

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All you Anonymous Cowards..

Posted by: Curtman on January 15, 2004 03:04 AM
Why can't you AC's get off of your high horse? The Internet is itself a liberating force. It offers a window to the outside in a country where your view of how things should be isn't the status quo. Linux enables people to use the Internet who otherwise wouldn't even have a glimpse of the outside world.



I congratulate the Saudi's for being open enough to allow this window to remain open, despite them knowing that people can easily circumvent the censorship.



Shame on all of you who impose your view of the world on others. The terrorist attacks were very wrong, nobody here is saying they weren't. But please at least acknowledge that they were born out of American ignorance to others, and the belief that you/they have the right to decide other people's destiny, and the right to intervene by supporting equally if not more brutal r'egimes when it suits you.



The Iraq situation and the media propaganda being spewed forth, is seperate from the war against terrorism. Nobody gave a hoot before this what the conditions were over there. Painting everyone in the arab world as a terrorist is asinine and dangerous. Equally as dangerous as the hopefully minority of arabs that views us all as jewish sympathizers and supporters. That mentality may well drag us all into an unnecessary and possibly escalating war. If you push them, they will resist. I doubt anybody would like to be 'liberated' in the mannor that Iraq has apparently been.



Lets try to work with them, instead of against them before your own cushy lifestyle is threatened further. Eastern Europe and the former USSR are examples of how democracy can be accomplished without American military intervention. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink as the saying goes.



Your government and its percieved mandate to free the world is I believe percieved by yourselves as a noble one, but is likely to cause a backlash against the very thing you seek to accomplish. You supported these r'egimes when it was convenient for you, and only recently decided to shut them down entirely. The majority of the world does not support this aggression, but is fearful of it.

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Bad example

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 15, 2004 03:39 AM
USSR?



The USSR fell apart when it did thanks to one man.



Ronald Reagan.



And the entire world was against him when he shoved those missiles down the throats of the French and other EU countries.



Much like the situation today.



Those same missiles that bankrupted the USSR due to their response.



And before you start talking about the US debt created during the same time, note that the prime rate exceeded 21 percent thanks to a peanut farmer president before Reagan, and that government revenue from taxes on income went up, not down during Reagan, and that Congress, with Democrats in charge, who pledged to keep social spending in check because of the necessary military spending during the buildup, broke that pledge and went on a social spending orgy during the 80's.



And the so called peace dividend? Wouldn't be possible if the USSR didn't fall apart right?



It took US military intervention to bring about change in Eastern Europe and the USSR. But it was US military intervention without firing a shot.



And the pope's visit to Poland certainly helped.

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Re:Bad example

Posted by: Curtman on January 15, 2004 06:24 AM
    The USSR fell apart when it did thanks to one man. Ronald Reagan. And the entire world was against him when he shoved those missiles down the throats of the French and other EU countries. Much like the situation today.



Strange, I don't remember any invasion, or occupying force, and I don't think the <A HREF="http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Soviet_Union" TITLE="wikipedia.org">history books</a wikipedia.org> do either, I think you might be overstating Reagan's influence on the situation.



    And before you start talking about the US debt created during the same time



It's not my concern what the US government does with its finances, that's your tax dollars (I assume), not mine. However when it supplies arms to dictators like Saddam people might get a little upset. The arms supply to brutal r'egimes in Central America is another shining example of the US serving its own interests at the expense of people caught up in a civil war.

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Re:All you Anonymous Cowards..

Posted by: okhayat on January 18, 2004 05:54 AM
Thank you very much Curtman.
And to those AC, registration takes only 15 seconds!

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Re: All you Anonymous Cowards..

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 58.110.173.167] on October 05, 2007 09:30 PM
Good on you mate, I loved you post. thumps up

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Re:to Mishaal

Posted by: Curtman on January 15, 2004 06:47 AM
    do the people of any country have the right to decide the following?



I think a more appropriate question would be, do the Americans have the right to determine that they don't have those rights. Especially after supporting r'egimes that do impose those restrictions. Where does the American government get the right to decide if people have the right to use marijuana? Or whether homosexuals should be discriminated against by being forbidded to enter into a marriage contract because they are condemned by a religion that is officially supposed to be seperate from government decision making? I'm not necessarily saying those decisions are wrong, but I do see a certain amount of irony there. (Or abortion, or assisted suicide for that matter)



    There are appalling levels of violence against women in the US



Not to mention the history with slavery, and the attempted extinction of the Aboriginal people of America.



    Maybe we should be a little bit more humble and extract the log from our own eye first


Please spread the word. I'm scared as hell.

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Who are you trying to convince ?

Posted by: catskul on January 18, 2004 02:43 AM
...Certainly it is not Mr. Mishaal. If not him nor other Muslims, then why even open your mouth? Instead, what you have done is simply offer a bad impression of the Western world to Mr. Mishaal and Saudi's in general. You have insulted them, and as well have insulted the general population of the western world by offering a rude and disrespectfull example, yourself, of a westerner.

Maybe that was your intent, but if so you are doing the job of the extreemists for them in re-enforcing a negative stereotype, and trivilizing otherwise legitimate western view points.

I would like to apologise to you Mr. Mishaal for the disrespect shown to you in the previous post. This person does not represent the citizens of the western world. There are many of us willing and able to have respectful open discussion on the topics you have written about.

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Re:Who are you trying to convince ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 19, 2004 03:59 PM
I thought it was a good post!

People should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as it does not hurt others. Extreme censorship does hurt the people who want access to information, honor killings (I do not know if this is the proper english term) does hurt the victim (who's crime may have been to fall in love), forced marriage hurt the involved parties, suppressing women's rights in the society does hurt the women.

This is all stuff practiced in many Islamic countries, and I do not know how anyone can justify this as "just being their culture", or that there are good reasons to keep these cultural traditions -- and although it might be wrong for me to tie the above actions together with Islam, it is a problem even in Denmark (where I live) with that part of our population which have come here from the Arabic world.

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Saudi Arabia is about the worst in the region.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 18, 2004 12:26 PM
The Saudis (read: Wahaabbis) have not only abused their own citizens, but they went on to contaminate other cultures with their money.

 

  By sponsoring the most extreme schools and teachings, they were able to propagate their extremism to many neighbouring countries.

I'm from Kuwait myself, and in the early 70's, women with mini skirts were the norm. The veil was considered 'funny' in those days. All okay until we had a mass miagration from Saudi Arabia in the mid 70s that screwed everything up.

 

  Slowly, Kuwait become more conservative and backward like its southern sister. The families from Saudi origin (we call them tribalists) gained more political gain from sheer numbers.

Unfortunately, we have some rudimentaroy democracy in Kuwait (a parliment) and it's been ever absued to draft medival and backward laws that strip citizens from their own rights!

An elected parliment that strips citizens from their own rights. Our parliment wanted to regulate the internet (but thank god we're not regulated like Saudi Arabia, only porn is blocked).

Sometimes, it is very dangerous to give people "choice". Granting democracy to the masses in the arab world is like handing a loaded revolver to a kid, and this is coming from an Arab.

Btw, Islam is a contributing factor to the mess. Would've been much better if we remained pagans!

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Pertinent info on Saudi Arabia

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on January 30, 2004 09:27 AM
U.S. has quietly expelled dozens of Saudi diplomats



Thursday, January 29, 2004



The United States has ordered the expulsion of dozens of <A HREF="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html" TITLE="worldtribune.com">Saudi diplomats suspected of helping promulgate Al Qaida ideology</a worldtribune.com>, diplomatic sources said. The State Dept. has refused to either confirm or deny the action..



The State Department revoked the diplomatic credentials of the Saudi diplomats in Washington over the last month in an effort to crack down on Saudi efforts to promote Al Qaida interests in the United States.



The diplomatic sources said about 70 diplomats and embassy staffers were expelled in late 2003 and dozens of others were ordered to leave the United States by mid-February. Many of those expelled were said to have worked in the office of the Saudi defense attache.



In all, about 70 Saudi diplomats have left the United States since January, the sources said. They did not include Saudi ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longest serving diplomat in the United States.



The State Department has refused to confirm the expulsion of the Saudi diplomats. "I can't confirm it at this point," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said on Wednesday. "I'll see if there's anything I can say for you."



The Saudi diplomats, in a determination made by the FBI and Homeland Security Department, were said to have abused their diplomatic privileges in the United States. The sources said most of the diplomats were responsible for operations of the Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America [IIASA] located in Fairfax, Va.



IIASA, established in 1988, has provided free training for hundreds of Muslims in the United States in Wahabi ideology, the basis for Al Qaida. The institute is one of six overseas branches of the main religious university in Saudi Arabia.



The Washington-based Saudi Information Agency, operated by the Saudi opposition, identified the Saudi diplomats who work at the institute as Fuad Gunaim, Ibrahim Al Kulaib, Abdallah Al Saif, Saleh Al Sunae, Fahd Al Amer, Saab Al Saab, and Yousef Al Shubaily.



The U.S. decision to expel the diplomats was said to have stemmed from a Houston, Texas conference in December 2003. The Saudi opposition agency said Saudi diplomats had planned to attend the conference with what it termed "known supporters of Al Qaida leader Osama Bin Laden. The Saudi embassy canceled its participation in the conference after the Washington Post reported the involvement of the diplomats.



The conference was to have been addressed by a senior Saudi cleric Sheik Abdullah Bin Jebreen, who has publicly supported Bin Laden and his war against the United States, the agency said. Jebreen addressed the conference via video link from Riyad.



[On Thursday, a statement purportedly issued by Bin Laden said Al Qaida's strategy was to launch a major attack on the United States. The statement, which appeared on the Voice of Jihad website, said Al Qaida wants to provoke the United States to retaliate against Saudi Arabia.]



The agency said Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar Bin Sultan has refused to take responsibility for the Saudi embassy in Washington. The agency cited a source as saying he hasn't entered the embassy in years.



"Many diplomats have not seen the ambassador for years," the source said. "Bandar spends most of his time at his mansions around the U.S. and the world, instead of carrying on his ambassadorial duties."


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Meet Saudi Arabia's most famous computer expert

Posted by: AKSaleem on October 18, 2007 06:16 AM
Salam O Alikum,

I hope can get his cell phone and talk to him! I wonder if that is possible?

Sincerely
AK Saleem

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Meet Saudi Arabia's most famous computer expert

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 71.238.148.207] on January 31, 2008 01:44 AM
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Re: Meet Saudi Arabia's most famous computer expert

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 71.238.148.207] on January 31, 2008 01:46 AM
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